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Re: Front brakes for my 109 with dual cylinders per side. INFO NEEDED!
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:41 am
by Dijan1993
Look for information on brakes for my 109 Station Wagon. Do the pipes for my brake cylinder go over the top or under? or are my brakes set up wrong? mean the cylinders are to the back and front and not top and bottom?
Please let me know?
Re: Front brakes for my 109 with dual cylinders per side. INFO NEEDED!
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2022 10:48 am
by StuartC
Assuming it is a series 2.
Section H-7 and H-8 of the "series 2 workshop manual" indicates same as your photo for the 109 11" brakes.
Brake pipe from 5 way to R.H. front to top of wheel brake cylinder then auxiliary connecting pipe from top brake cylinder to lower brake cylinder......
Exactly as your photo.
Appears all good.
Stuart
Re: Front brakes for my 109 with dual cylinders per side. INFO NEEDED!
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2022 10:50 am
by StuartC
revisiting your photo....is that the LF or RF?
Stuart
Re: Re: Front brakes for my 109 with dual cylinders per side. INFO NEEDED!
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:01 am
by StuartC
Correction.....my earlier 1st post should read...."brake pipe from 5 way to L.H. front..."
Re: Front brakes for my 109 with dual cylinders per side. INFO NEEDED!
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:24 am
by StuartC
copy of pg. H-8
Re: Re: Front brakes for my 109 with dual cylinders per side. INFO NEEDED!
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2022 3:02 pm
by Dijan1993
This is the back of the passenger side..... So the pipe then goes to the front...
Re: Re: Front brakes for my 109 with dual cylinders per side. INFO NEEDED!
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2022 3:13 pm
by StuartC
I think you may have two options here.....BUT I'm not sure if the upper brake cylinder has the same female thread spec on the two inlet/outlet ports.
Firstly, I would take off the brake drum and ensure the internals are as per the H-8 drawing for the L.H. and R.H......
If they are then rearrange the piping,
If they are not then the backing plates could have been reversed....ie on the wrong sides.
Re: Re: Front brakes for my 109 with dual cylinders per side. INFO NEEDED!
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2022 3:18 pm
by Dijan1993
It appears the threads are the same... I will remove tires drums and etc. and confirm... I will let you know what the outcome is Stuart...And thank you...
Re: Re: Front brakes for my 109 with dual cylinders per side. INFO NEEDED!
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2022 3:31 pm
by StuartC
parts manual for 109 11" brake anchor plate
L.H. 246565
R.H. 246566
I'm not sure if it is possible to switch L.H. part onto R.H. side and vice versa.....
Re: Re: Front brakes for my 109 with dual cylinders per side. INFO NEEDED!
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2022 3:39 pm
by Dijan1993
This is what is in the green manual....
That is why things are confusing...
Re: Re: Front brakes for my 109 with dual cylinders per side. INFO NEEDED!
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2022 4:10 pm
by StuartC
Well.....that's interesting.......if you have a Series 2 109 stn wagon I think I would refer to my manual deg.
Re: Re: Front brakes for my 109 with dual cylinders per side. INFO NEEDED!
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2022 4:16 pm
by StuartC
what are the vehicle specs?
Re: Front brakes for my 109 with dual cylinders per side. INFO NEEDED!
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2022 6:32 pm
by ANDYD
Yes, the model and year is important as there was quite a few changes and differences.
If I remember correctly the cylinders were top and bottom as shown in your photo.
My old Haynes manual shows the cylinders top and bottom for all 109 Front wheels (but the workshop manual does show them on the left and right).
-Andy
Re: Front brakes for my 109 with dual cylinders per side. INFO NEEDED!
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:25 am
by StuartC
Just curious on what the final diagnosis was.....