The Rover-Landers of BC

Well with the price of gas these days and no reprise in the for seen future I figure it was high time to try and revive my SIII diesel engine that I had in the shop. I know, I know, slow noise and under powered, but it's what I have and I don't exactly live in Vancouver! It's going to go into my SIIa 88" and I'll but the stronger gas in my 109" which current has a under powered 7:1 in it...

So any advice would be greatly appreciated, we all hate surprises, especially ones that cost! Mad

History: Came in the back of my 109 that I purchased in Vanderhoof (God that's a long ways away!) I was told that it ran when it was removed from the vehicle, for what ever that's worth... Strangely enough it came with a new set of pistons (not installed of course) and the I've been told the injector pump has been rebuilt.

So here is a short video of it running... SMOKEY!!!
https://picasaweb.google.com/candyforan ... 0717110914

Is that amount of smoke normal? Seems to be just white smoke, just a touch of black on first crank... Question

Also my next question is the plumbing of the coolant any one have some good pictures of how it's supposed to go? And what the heck goes in here?
https://picasaweb.google.com/candyforan ... 7593080690

Thirdly I need the metal fitting and flaring for the fuel return, anyone know where I can get one, I know it's some sort of strange flaring unlike brakes.
https://picasaweb.google.com/candyforan ... 7390561378

Thanks in advance,
Andrew

You need to drive it and see if there is smoke once warm and run. Timing might be retarded a bit, but you really need to run it first.

The first picture of the back of the engine, the empty port is for the temperature sensor.

Can't see what exactly you mean on the fuel return. On the 2.5, they simple use nylon tubing that is heated and pushed over the barb. Don't know if the 2.25 is different

Thanks for the information red90!

What I mean is I'm assuming that there is a brass fitting with a fluted metal fuel line (like the one that goes on to the main pump)that must come off the last injector in the picture I have a shiny piece of new fuel line on it but under that it looks like threading or is that barbs for heated treated nylon tubing like you said... So where would one get said nylon tubing any ways?
https://picasaweb.google.com/candyforan ... 7390561378

Thanks,
Andrew

Can you take the hose off so we can see what is there? I'm not familiar with the details of a 2.25 and can;t recall what is there on a 2.5. Maybe someone else will know.

Also, on the hwite smoke. White smoke is unburnt fuel. Not abnormal with a cold engine.

So I ran the diesel for about 5 minutes to see if the white smoke would lesson, and it does quite a bit, but I have a strange question... is it normal to see what looks like burning soot every once and awhile?

Also any clue as to how to check if my glow plugs are good and how to wire them?

Andrew

Could be just some carbon flaking off. The white smoke is usually unburnt fuel, which is a liquid, and since liquid doesn't compress, it will result in any other loose stuff being removed from the combustion chamber. Not a bad thing so long as the soot and carbon is fairly small. this should clean up over time.


cheers, Dave

Once I determine that the plugs are good or bad, I see that there are better kinds out there and aren't too pricey, anyone got a part number for said replacements.

Ottawa Valley Land Rover site recommends the following
Glow plugs Series II/IIA 568335 Champion AG-45 2l & 2.25l diesel, 1.7 volts, 38-42 amps
Glow plugs Series II/IIA/III 568335 KLG GF 210/t 2l & 2.25l diesel, 1.7 volts, 38-42 amps

Which leads me to my next question... 12v these are listed as 1.7 volts would I not need a resistor or something?

Thanks,
Andrew

OK, I said I wasn't an expert on these engines. Maybe they use something different than what I have on my diesel. It might be a good idea to locate the correct relay loom, then...

John, Alan, time for you to chime in.

Dave

I've heard the 2.25 plugs are wired in series, but I not worked on one of those engines.

Your glow plugs look to already be wired with the exception of connection to the vehicle electrical system through the appropriate resistor. Test them individually with an ohmmeter not by hooking to 12V

So you ran it for 5 minutes without a functional cooling system?

Maybe you should make an offer on these

http://roverlanders.bc.ca/roverforum/vi ... php?t=4214

Unfortunately I don't really have much of an option as I have no way to hook up coolant to a free standing motor, and the other option was to rip out my current petrol and install the diesel with the risk of it being DOA... so i figured a few minutes without coolant wasn't going to hurt anything, I'm no mechanic and I make do with what I have for knowledge, which means sometimes(maybe more like often) I do dumb things. :oops:

A diesel running with no load on it isn't gonna get too hot. It will be fine, just dont make it a habit :wink:

Scott

Anyone have any suggestions, pictures or diagrams of a throttle cable for a series land rover with a diesel engine in it... I'm sure i can figure it out, I don't think it will be rocket science but I'm also not interested in reinventing the wheel either... So suggestions are welcome please.

Thanks,
Andrew

If you go here

http://www.landroverweb.com/Pdf-files/M ... Part_3.pdf

and then to pg 34 you will see the components required for an option utilizing solid linkage not unlike the gas engine. There is also an option using a cable that I found provides much smoother off-road functionality.