Canol Road 2009

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ANDYD · #101 Post by **ANDYD** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:50 pm

A friend told me about a ferry from Bellingham to Skagway, all I could find is this link

http://www.aferry.ca/

Once in Skagway it is only 410km to Ross River.

Sure would cut the driving down, but I have no idea how long or how much the ferry would be.
Has anyone ever been on or heard of this ferry route???

Andy

DaveB · #102 Post by **DaveB** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:51 pm

HeadDamage wrote:Yes there is gas at the junction of hwy 1 and hwy 4... in fact it is the town of Watson Lake. It is the place with the sign post forest:

http://www.watsonlake.ca/

http://www.yukoninfo.com/watson/watsonlakeinfo.htm

As for how I got google to draw that route... you have to know that the small road is there then zoom in on it and drag the other route over to it then it will accept it.

Thanks Andrew. It looks like whether I come up highway 37 or 97, either goes to Watson Lake and then the Campbell Highway (hwy 4) is a good route to go north from the looks of it.

cheers, Dave

ANDYD · #103 Post by **ANDYD** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:07 pm

I did find another link,

http://alaskaferry.com/mainsched.php

It shows Bellingham to Skagway in 2 1/2 days ... thats pretty fast.

Depart Bellingham Fri Aug 14th and arrive in Skagway Aug 17th 2.15pm

Three Two Berth Outside Cabin Two Adults Standard Car $2495

ummmmm not cheap .. now how much gas will the V8 burn...

kRiS · #104 Post by **kRiS** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:15 pm

JD · #105 Post by JD » Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:46 pm

Kris,

That YouTube video just makes me want to go up there with a flatdeck and bring home a new project.

JD

Dave_F · #106 Post by **Dave_F** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:58 pm

Great Find Kris!!!

I think the Bailey Bridge you see at the beginning is only about 1km from the /Yukon/NWT border. The earlier pic I found is tagged on google earth in Panoramio looks like the same Bridge.

Good flow to those rivers :shock: :shock:

Looks like it was filmed last year.

Doc Tari · #107 Post by **Doc Tari** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:03 pm

JD wrote:Loonie Laager here...

If we can go we will definately stay rear to staff the LS Laager. Perhaps some DII's would be good at the back too?

Medium weight wrecker (C60L or Diamond T anyone?) or MOG w/tow bar would be a real asset. Has to be bigger and stronger than the LR's but not too big so it can follow the inbound path.

JD

JD, what are you saying about DII's, that they should stay at the back because they're mall crawling girly trucks for soccer moms? :P

Unfortunately, I can't take both the Mog and the 110 and I want to see how far we can get, not hang back with the DII's so one or the other has to stay home...

HeadDamage · #108 Post by **HeadDamage** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:03 pm

Another video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWltMDdJLP0

Doc Tari · #109 Post by **Doc Tari** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:28 pm

Here's a link to a short write up by the guy with the Ford van in the video Kris posted:

http://www.4wdtrips.net/forum/showthrea ... #post71953

Looks like he made his trip very recently, this past August/September.

HeadDamage · #110 Post by **HeadDamage** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:35 pm

Another UFO incident on the Canol Road... that's two I've found so far. Perhaps we need ET spray as well as Bear spray? ;)

http://www.ufobc.ca/yukon/macpassufophoto.htm

Dave_F · #111 Post by **Dave_F** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:45 pm

The Road even has a song about it....

Stan Rogers -- Northwest Passage -- "CANOL Road" ...sounds a bit like Gordon Lightfoot.

The second video has a link which you can get to this...

http://michaelpealow.blogspot.com/2006/ ... canol.html

in a Volvo XC70...just like mine...but he must have had those crappy Pirelli's...

JD · #112 Post by JD » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:59 pm

Pete,

No ref to you and your Mog. Just trying to suggest within what I know to be group knowlege.

Spent the night googling 4x4 wreckers. Found a Mog wrecker but the pic wasn't that good. Was hoping to find some kind of short wheel base yard dog in the 3 ton range. Nada except vintage military stuff that is either in museums or only Brian Mulroney can afford the gas for.

Lynn says we have way too many loose ends to tie up this year to prepare our truck for more than a Vancouver trip but she says I can go in someone else's truck. Thinking about it.

Tow bars, wall tents, tarps, antenna masts, gen set, circus lights, flag pole w/Cdn flag.... and bug netting.

Cheers
JD

Bermuda110 · #113 Post by **Bermuda110** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:07 pm

HeadDamage wrote:Another video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWltMDdJLP0

Having fun watching all the videos. Found this link while watching this one.
http://explorenorth.com/library/roads/canol_road.html
Haven't had a chance to see what's there but looks like it may have some good info. :thumbright:

HeadDamage · #114 Post by **HeadDamage** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:18 pm

Here is a good map of the roads and Yukon government campgrounds:

http://www.environmentyukon.gov.yk.ca/p ... ndsmap.pdf

HeadDamage · #115 Post by **HeadDamage** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:38 pm

The Lymnaea hot springs would make a good goal. They are near the Twitya river crossing. Located about one mile northwest of the road crossing point.

LYMNAEA SPRINGS - SITE NUMBER: 60
DESCRIPTION: (Boreal Forest Zone (Alpine Forest - Tundra Section); hotspring ecosystem).
South-facing undulating valley slope of the Twitya River, gently dissected by mountain streams.
Hot spring pool of 15 foot diameter and filled with moss, bubbles gently. The out-flowing
stream flows over an apron of travertine precipitated from the springwaters. Surrounded by
lush vegetation dominated by Picea glauca-Alnus crispa-Betula @@ -@f w-et meadows.
glandulosa associations, and smaller areas Small snail of genus Lymnaea occurs in great
abundance in wet meadow, downstream from spring. Major soils: carbonated Rego Gleysols,
Orthic Eutric Brunisols, Rego Humic Gleysols, orthic and Gleyed Regosols.
EXCEPTIONAL INTEREST: Hot springs in the area provide unusual habitat conditions for some
specialized flora. A snail, perhaps an endemic sub-species of jym@aea@ bulmoides is abundant
and active year-round. Area probably used as a mineral lick by ungulates.

http://www.ngps.nt.ca/Upload/Letters%20 ... ndix-2.pdf

Doc Tari · #116 Post by **Doc Tari** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:34 pm

HeadDamage wrote:Johnsons Crossing is bit out of the way. I would recomend the following route as being the fastest based on having driven both hwy 37 and 97 up to white horse in the past. 37 is shorter but it is a slow drive... would be good for the return trip if there is time left, stop in at Hyder and watch bears and such.

I'm not sure that it's is a slower road but agree with Andrew, take 37 on the way back and hit Hyder if time allows. I was in Hyder a couple years ago and the bears and glaciers are well worth the trip.

DaveB · #117 Post by **DaveB** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:55 pm

Doc Tari wrote:JD, what are you saying about DII's, that they should stay at the back because they're mall crawling girly trucks for soccer moms? :P

...with only an electric winch capable of only pulling one D110 out of a hole at a time?!? Man, what a wussy truck that would be!

Doc Tari · #118 Post by **Doc Tari** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:11 pm

Just to clarify, I don't feel that DII's are mall crawling girly trucks that are only for soccer moms (even though my sister-in-law visited the mall regularly with hers...) :P

Also to set the record straight, I have no problem with electric winches and the stuck 110 was not mine! 8)

HeadDamage · #119 Post by **HeadDamage** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:36 pm

Looks like there is a rover group from eastern Canada planning the same trip either last year or trip this year:

http://www.discoweb.org/forums/showthre ... ight=canol

Looks like it might be Land Rover Adventure Association of Ontario that is planning it.

Dave_F · #120 Post by **Dave_F** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:09 am

I just did a quick read of their thread and it seems that they were thinking of floating across the MacKenzie :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

The forum thread goes pretty strong for a few days in Sept.07 then another few days in Aug.08 then nothing....seems like they bit off more than they could chew....floating across the Mackenzie River!

JD · #121 Post by JD » Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:51 am

Pete,
After following Dave's Disco into the pit on the flake chase, and being the one stuck at the bottom in a 110 requiring the pull out by the MOG, it was not what the DII could do or not do I was thinking. Just thinking about body damage. Be assured the full range of soccer moms and other mall-verlanders are completely open for you with no competition at all from me OK?
... when you pick your DII's do you pick the red ones last?

JD

DaveB · #122 Post by **DaveB** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 4:18 am

HeadDamage wrote:Looks like there is a rover group from eastern Canada planning the same trip either last year or trip this year:

http://www.discoweb.org/forums/showthre ... ight=canol

Looks like it might be Land Rover Adventure Association of Ontario that is planning it.

Good find Andrew! I remember reading that thread and I forgot all about it. Sounds to me like they were planning for this coming summer.

As for DIIs, lets just move this thread back on topic and worry about types of trucks elsewhere.

Dave

HeadDamage · #123 Post by **HeadDamage** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:10 am

I contacted the guy to see how their trip was going, got this back:

Were looking at doing it in two years.Next summer I’m going to scout by plane and we will see how far we can go and determine hour needs and such.

I've suggested that he might want to take advantage of the roverlander trip to help prep for a full crossing.

Doc Tari · #124 Post by **Doc Tari** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:17 pm

Just trying to have some fun Dave...

As for others looking to do the Canol this year, there is another group (non-Rover specific) planning to do this trip right around the time we're planning for. The organizer replied to my posting on a different forum and seems to feel that the washouts are going to be a larger problem than the water crossings. I'm not so sure but finding out is part of the fun. Maybe I should razz them about their choice of trucks... :?

HeadDamage · #125 Post by **HeadDamage** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:24 pm

Well a wash out can be anything from a small ditch to the grand canyon. A wash out on level ground is not so bad, might take some digging and winching. A wash out on a steep slope could be impassable. I guess we should consider some bridging gear. At least enough to help get in and out of deep wash outs. Or we could wait till 2010 to do this and see how the other guys make out this year ;) It would suck if the trail was closed before then though, but due to the contaminated site issues along the trail I don't think that it will be made an park for a while yet.

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