I have a bit of a strange request...I am having engine problems with my 2.25 petrol engine, and have a 2.25 diesel that could go into my IIA 88". I am wondering if this is a good idea...as I have never driven a 2.25 diesel and hear mixed reviews. I'd love to take one for a test drive, if anyone wouldn't mind letting me have a drive for 10 mins or so, before I just plop it in. Or what are your opinions?
Thanks,
Devin.
Do you have a 2.25 Diesel?
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Hi Devin
I have driven rovers with diesels as well as everything from a little diesel VW to highway tucks and farm equipment. Diesels have specific strengths over gas burners - better fuel economy, fewer electrical components (on the older models) and thus fewer moisture worries (good for when you take your rover to play in the water) as well as longevity of the motor and piles of torque.
On the down side... (the list is pretty long) - expensive to repair (the fuel injection pump is like gold when it comes to repair time) - requires much more stringent maintenence (especially fuel amd oil monitoring - dirt and water are the enemies.).. The turbo diesels are pretty good but have all of the turbo "worries" (turbo repairs are also pricey) and require extra caution on the part of the operator (proper cool-down, etc.)
From what I know, the 2.25 can be characterized as slow, smokey, smelly, loud, torquey but lacking power and having little "high-end". I drove a diesel 109 pick-up with the 2.25 and a five speed... it took forever to get up to 80 kph (but was pretty gutsy in the bush with lots of low end grunt). I have always wondered how the extra torque and the "weak" rover rear axles shafts ever got along...
There are times that I love the little rabbit that I drive... 60 piles per gallon is awesome and being able to smoke-out tailgaters with a huge cloud of black smoke (accelerator to the floor will do that) is a bonus but expensive fuel filters, nasty injection repair prices, the hassle of monitoring the fuel with additives and worrying about being too smokey and underpowered is definetly something you will need to be prpared to deal with.
Some food for thought,
Regards, Rob
84 Rabbit diesel (great mpg... can't pass anything on the road)
88 RRC V8 (lots of power... can't pass a gas station by the road!
I have driven rovers with diesels as well as everything from a little diesel VW to highway tucks and farm equipment. Diesels have specific strengths over gas burners - better fuel economy, fewer electrical components (on the older models) and thus fewer moisture worries (good for when you take your rover to play in the water) as well as longevity of the motor and piles of torque.
On the down side... (the list is pretty long) - expensive to repair (the fuel injection pump is like gold when it comes to repair time) - requires much more stringent maintenence (especially fuel amd oil monitoring - dirt and water are the enemies.).. The turbo diesels are pretty good but have all of the turbo "worries" (turbo repairs are also pricey) and require extra caution on the part of the operator (proper cool-down, etc.)
From what I know, the 2.25 can be characterized as slow, smokey, smelly, loud, torquey but lacking power and having little "high-end". I drove a diesel 109 pick-up with the 2.25 and a five speed... it took forever to get up to 80 kph (but was pretty gutsy in the bush with lots of low end grunt). I have always wondered how the extra torque and the "weak" rover rear axles shafts ever got along...
There are times that I love the little rabbit that I drive... 60 piles per gallon is awesome and being able to smoke-out tailgaters with a huge cloud of black smoke (accelerator to the floor will do that) is a bonus but expensive fuel filters, nasty injection repair prices, the hassle of monitoring the fuel with additives and worrying about being too smokey and underpowered is definetly something you will need to be prpared to deal with.
Some food for thought,
Regards, Rob
84 Rabbit diesel (great mpg... can't pass anything on the road)
88 RRC V8 (lots of power... can't pass a gas station by the road!
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I have a few miles under my belt in a 2.25 diesel (Vancouver-Ottawa, Seattle-Inuvik, Vancouver-Fairbanks, etc.) - loved it. Certainly different from a gas engine but one in good shape, driven like a diesel, and they are just fine. Low to mid 30's for economy. A different torque curve so under some circumstances they will not pull as well, in some they do better than the gas engine. I never had trouble keeping up with general traffic, regular limitations apply of course, long steep hills, etc. It is still an old Series Land Rover, and as such, I think they are a great engine. Never had to do an injection pump. I initially ran mine with a Fairey OD then went to a high ratio transfer case (Ashcroft). Some people hate diesels, noise and smell, others would have nothing but.
You decide.
John
You decide.
John
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Thanks for all the replies.
I love diesel engines in general, and have driven many mid-larger sized american diesel trucks, but have no experience at all with the 2.25. I know it's a power cut from the gas, but I was hoping to find out if I can live with it! My Land Rover is still, after all, my only car. I am considering popping the diesel in while I re-build my gas or source another engine. I have military gas tanks with the fuel return already plumbed, but is there a lot else (besides wiring and plumbing) that needs to be done to swap it over, and can it be easily switched back?
Dev.
I love diesel engines in general, and have driven many mid-larger sized american diesel trucks, but have no experience at all with the 2.25. I know it's a power cut from the gas, but I was hoping to find out if I can live with it! My Land Rover is still, after all, my only car. I am considering popping the diesel in while I re-build my gas or source another engine. I have military gas tanks with the fuel return already plumbed, but is there a lot else (besides wiring and plumbing) that needs to be done to swap it over, and can it be easily switched back?
Dev.
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Devin,
As you are requesting, the best bet if to get a drive in a good one and decide. Certainly on paper the power is lower but as I said, on the road things are different. With the OD or high ration Transfer case I had no trouble cruising at 70 if needed. In traffic it goes fine. Certainly it will last longer at lower speeds, it was very happy at about 55mph (7.50x16 tires). If you are happy now cruising around in a Series I can't see that you will be disappointed, like I said though, as long as the engine is not bagged out already.
John
As you are requesting, the best bet if to get a drive in a good one and decide. Certainly on paper the power is lower but as I said, on the road things are different. With the OD or high ration Transfer case I had no trouble cruising at 70 if needed. In traffic it goes fine. Certainly it will last longer at lower speeds, it was very happy at about 55mph (7.50x16 tires). If you are happy now cruising around in a Series I can't see that you will be disappointed, like I said though, as long as the engine is not bagged out already.
John
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2.25 Diesel
Hi Deven,
I have just driven my Carawagon from Zurich to London and it totally amazed me. The 109" was laden down with enough parts to build another one and still liked to cruise at 9-100 Km. I had thoughts of putting a 200TDi in it but I think I will just keep it the way it is. It was rebuilt in Spain about 80,000 km ago.
On the other hand, if you remember Squamish a couple of years ago my Siia 88" had a 2,25 diesel in it and it was almost embarrassing to drive it on the highway.
So a strong is good and a weak one it not....just like every engine.
If you try it and don't like it you can always put a 2.5 in and turbo it like my other 109".
Hope this helps you.
I have just driven my Carawagon from Zurich to London and it totally amazed me. The 109" was laden down with enough parts to build another one and still liked to cruise at 9-100 Km. I had thoughts of putting a 200TDi in it but I think I will just keep it the way it is. It was rebuilt in Spain about 80,000 km ago.
On the other hand, if you remember Squamish a couple of years ago my Siia 88" had a 2,25 diesel in it and it was almost embarrassing to drive it on the highway.
So a strong is good and a weak one it not....just like every engine.
If you try it and don't like it you can always put a 2.5 in and turbo it like my other 109".
Hope this helps you.