Re: Front brakes for my 109 with dual cylinders per side. INFO NEEDED!

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Dijan1993 · #1 Post by **Dijan1993** » Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:41 am

Look for information on brakes for my 109 Station Wagon. Do the pipes for my brake cylinder go over the top or under? or are my brakes set up wrong? mean the cylinders are to the back and front and not top and bottom?
Please let me know?

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StuartC · #2 Post by **StuartC** » Thu Dec 08, 2022 10:48 am

Assuming it is a series 2.
Section H-7 and H-8 of the "series 2 workshop manual" indicates same as your photo for the 109 11" brakes.
Brake pipe from 5 way to R.H. front to top of wheel brake cylinder then auxiliary connecting pipe from top brake cylinder to lower brake cylinder......
Exactly as your photo.
Appears all good.
Stuart

StuartC · #3 Post by **StuartC** » Thu Dec 08, 2022 10:50 am

revisiting your photo....is that the LF or RF?
Stuart

StuartC · #4 Post by **StuartC** » Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:01 am

Correction.....my earlier 1st post should read...."brake pipe from 5 way to L.H. front..."

StuartC · #5 Post by **StuartC** » Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:24 am

copy of pg. H-8

Dijan1993 · #6 Post by **Dijan1993** » Thu Dec 08, 2022 3:02 pm

This is the back of the passenger side..... So the pipe then goes to the front...

StuartC · #7 Post by **StuartC** » Thu Dec 08, 2022 3:13 pm

I think you may have two options here.....BUT I'm not sure if the upper brake cylinder has the same female thread spec on the two inlet/outlet ports.
Firstly, I would take off the brake drum and ensure the internals are as per the H-8 drawing for the L.H. and R.H......
If they are then rearrange the piping,
If they are not then the backing plates could have been reversed....ie on the wrong sides.

Dijan1993 · #8 Post by **Dijan1993** » Thu Dec 08, 2022 3:18 pm

It appears the threads are the same... I will remove tires drums and etc. and confirm... I will let you know what the outcome is Stuart...And thank you...

StuartC · #9 Post by **StuartC** » Thu Dec 08, 2022 3:31 pm

parts manual for 109 11" brake anchor plate
L.H. 246565
R.H. 246566
I'm not sure if it is possible to switch L.H. part onto R.H. side and vice versa.....

Dijan1993 · #10 Post by **Dijan1993** » Thu Dec 08, 2022 3:39 pm

This is what is in the green manual....
That is why things are confusing...

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StuartC · #11 Post by **StuartC** » Thu Dec 08, 2022 4:10 pm

Well.....that's interesting.......if you have a Series 2 109 stn wagon I think I would refer to my manual deg.

StuartC · #12 Post by **StuartC** » Thu Dec 08, 2022 4:16 pm

what are the vehicle specs?

ANDYD · #13 Post by **ANDYD** » Thu Dec 08, 2022 6:32 pm

Yes, the model and year is important as there was quite a few changes and differences.

If I remember correctly the cylinders were top and bottom as shown in your photo.
My old Haynes manual shows the cylinders top and bottom for all 109 Front wheels (but the workshop manual does show them on the left and right).

-Andy

StuartC · #14 Post by **StuartC** » Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:25 am

Just curious on what the final diagnosis was.....

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