putting TD5 into D2?

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davran · #1 Post by **davran** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:26 am

Persons of Distinction,

As I'm rambling this morning, I have another question. Has anyone put a TD5 into a D2? These are the diesels used in the D2s in markets other than NA, so I assume it's easier than engineering a custom install.

Any ideas on this would be appreciated. The D2 we just bought has 92K kms, and I do not want to throw another set of head gaskets at a gas-guzzler; I want to put in the factory diesel option.

Thanks,

PaulC · #2 Post by **PaulC** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:38 am

Yea that would be an interesting conversion, I have done a fair amount of pretty nasty trail driving in Quebec in a 110 TD5.....it was pretty nice and handled the hiway speeds easily.

I have to wonder about the cost of all the bits and the price of diesel engine & install then more expensive diesel fuel , maybe just drop a Chevy 350 into it run regular gas, parts, service etc etc? :shock:

Its something that I may consider doing...the SBC that is.

davran · #3 Post by **davran** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:16 am

Point is I want a diesel, and a the correct, factory installed diesel for ease of conversion. I run a percentage of biodiesel in my vw all the time, and I want to in the LR too. I know putting a TD5 into the D2 is going to cost at least double what doing head gaskets will, but I want the fuel economy the diesel will give (about 10mpg more if I'm correct), which will offset the cost of the installtion in time, and I can then run biodiesel too.

Why buy a vehicle with a diesel I don't want when I can convert the D2 which I do like?

David

franko · #4 Post by **franko** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:06 pm

have fun david, thats all I can say.. Go to pirate4x4 and check out the landrover forum there is a guy talking about the same thing on there.
Turns out its not as easy as you may think. D2 have way more electrical issues then a D1.

But your right diesel is the way to go , reason why Iam putting the OM617 into my D1.

discojonny · #5 Post by **discojonny** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:31 pm

I remember last year there was a D2 with a 300tdi in it. This may be an easier conversion than the TD5. The other thing is the TD5 is not a mechanical injector and may not take the biodiesel as well as the 300. I heard that the tranny ecu is connected to the engine ecu in D2's so the electrice are a little hassle. I did the 300 swap into my D1 a few years ago. You may wanty to go to a D1 for the conversion. They are better offroad with less overhang in the back.

davran · #6 Post by **davran** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:22 am

A Tdi300 is a definitely option, and I'm planning on getting a engine and trans unit, as I've read how difficult it is to get the v8 trans to work properly with a diesel.

I have also read that getting away from the ECU compatibility problems is why people often convert to a manual trans.

Rob · #7 Post by **Rob** » Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:42 pm

The LR3s are available in other parts of the world with a V6 diesel. I have seen one in an LR3 ambulance conversion in Antigua and it was a very nice unit according to the owners who are quite pleased with its performance. Probably cost a small fortune to get one out here and retro-fit it but it fits into the LR3 nicely so going into a D2 shouldn't be too difficult... :?

As far as the TD5 goes, I roamed around Antigua in a heavily laden 110 with a TD5 and it was a nice ride with ample power and smooth acceleration though I wonder if dimensionally it would be a little too big for the D2 motor compartment? Were TD5 used in the D2 rigs elsewhere?

I've thought about repowering my D2 but for the $ spent on getting and installing the diesel it would buy a LOT of gas for my 4.0... I have also thought about going with a modern GM aluminum block V8 as there are lots of options and upgrades for the LS series.... I know, some might think this is blasphemy :twisted: suggesting gas and GMC in a rover but then again gas “GM” inspired engines have been powering rovers since the 70s…

red90 · #8 Post by **red90** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:50 pm

Rob wrote:...so going into a D2 shouldn't be too difficult... :?

:lol:

Have a read on companies that have done TDV6 conversions. They spend a 1000 hours on the project and they are experts........

Rob · #9 Post by **Rob** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:44 pm

1000 hours... really? :shock:

StuartL · #10 Post by **StuartL** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:37 pm

Hey Rob,

DON'T DO IT...MOVE ON QUICKLY! One of our local guys shipped a TD5 from Germany and realized it just didn't make any sense. I looked at it for a Defender and realized it wouldn't work. What I found out was that the TD5 is so electronic and needs sensors and information from everything that it just is too much for a conversion. The only person I know that has successfully installed a TD5 is Ryan U in West Van but he did it with a Defender TD5 parts vehicle and he carries an extra programmed ECU just in case. Oh yeah and Ryan is a brilliant engineer that built his first land rover at age 15. :lol:

You said 300TDi, go with that if you want a diesel.

Regards,

The Rover-Landers of BC

The Rover-Landers of BC

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